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By Brian C. Ledbetter · Wednesday, September 9. 2009 21:09
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So it would appear that yours truly is the latest member of the "People Charles Johnson No Longer Associates With" club. Which is unfortunate, considering that Johnson's Little Green Footballs is the sole reason that Snapped Shot was started in the first place.

What did I do to earn such a high honor?

Why, I had the sheer audacity to post an innocuous comment on one of Charles' economic posts that I felt wasn't really grounded in reality. And rather than responding on topic to what I had posted, I was instead invited by CJ himself into impromptu witch hunt.

Who are you linking to? We demand answers, infidel scum!

So anyway, one thing led to another, and before I knew it, I was being pilloried by every last yes-man in LGF's apparently new-and-improved arsenal.

If that's what passes for editorial comment at LGF, I guess I'm not missing much by being kicked out of the clubhouse, huh?

The only thing I regret is that, in attempting to defend myself from near-slanderous attacks, I expressed very strongly my neutrality in the long-past blogwar between Charles and Robert Spencer. In much the same manner as a child of divorcées tries to express neutrality when their parents fight, I reckon.

This, of course, greatly offended both gentlemen—only one of whom really matters here: Robert, I'm truly sorry that I didn't stand up for you more voicifierously when the smears against you were first started.

Charles and his band of merry tag-alongs should be ashamed of their McCarthyite bullying tactics.

(But enough about me: I abhor blogging about blogging. Why don't you share your thoughts now? Unlike LGF, I promise not to rake you over the coals for associations I invent about you, nor will I "ban" you for "attacking" me.)

Update: The official list of people banned by Charles is maintained here. I couldn't find it last night, or I would've linked it then. This is exactly the kind of dictatorial commentary policy that I have constantly said I want no part of over here.
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Brian C. Ledbetter on 2009-09-09 21:18 #1
*Since Charles is apparently in the business of blogroll policing and enforcement, I've taken the liberty of "accidentally" pointing Little Green Footballs in our sidebar here to the thread in which Ace of Spades delightfully tore one of his more incoherent posts apart.

Which, of course, was never even remotely addressed over at LGF.

Stay classy, Charles!
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Tokin42 on 2009-09-09 21:41 #2
*I watched it happen in real time. I have to tell ya, it was funny and painful at the same time. Their comments thread has been pure comedy for awhile now and, somehow, they get dumber and more paranoid by the day. They manage to self-godwin every thread.

Consider your banning a badge of courage.
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Brian C. Ledbetter on 2009-09-09 22:33 #3
*Thanks for the support, Tokin!

As an aside, something just occurred to me: Charles might snark that Robert Spencer doesn't have any "academic" credentials (which I dispute), but Robert is an oft-published author, and he regularly engages in open live debates with people who disagree with him.

Which is more than I've ever seen Charles do.

Not sure what the significance of that little finding is, but considering that Charles won't even allow dissent in his own moderated comments section, I'm betting there's something to be learned there.
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Yiddish Steel on 2009-09-09 22:36 #4
*I've been tiring of Charles' prima donna antics since the start of the year. Johnson turned into his namesake when he decided to go to war with the likes of Robert Spencer, Gates of Vienna, and Brussels Journal. I've never been able to determine just whom anointed Charles Johnson the Arbiter of Anti-Jihadi Decency. I know that Chuck is oblivious to it, but, he has turned off a sizeable amount of the Conservative Blogsphere since he donned the golden tutu.
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captainfish on 2009-09-09 23:30 #5
*He turned me off a few years ago with his constant anti-religion tirade. Seems anyone who believes in Creation is someone worthy of ridicule and sliming, in CJ's world.

BTW Brian, remember when you linked to an article that linked to someplace else that had a link to a google ad in the sidebar that promoted that bad thing.... yeah, that was a bad thing you did.

:-)
:-))
;-)

and.. one more for good measure.. :-)

@-`-,-----

PS: I never found any of the anti-Spenser arguments to have merit.
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The Osprey on 2009-09-10 00:11 #6
*Charles has gone around the bend. LGF used to be a worthwhile blog. Now it is just a platform for Darwinist Rage Boy's douchebaggery. I think he's managed to piss off at least 75% of the conservative blogosphere over the last year since he started his little dustup with Robert Spencer. His site is now Kos Lite. Come to LGF 2.0 aka the Blogmocracy, you will be welcomed with open arms.
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spidly on 2009-09-10 00:17 #7
*recently purged for non-approved opinions. screw that place.
hell of a site before the moderator got personally involved in every thread and enforced comlpiance with his views, and before every other thread was about the grave danger creationists are to the republic.

I know who gets my vote for dhimmi and idiotarian of the year for 2009.
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Kirly on 2009-09-10 00:31 #8
*Snappedshot,

You are in very good company. Recently it seems that both iowahawk and jammiewearingfool have also been banned. their crime? no longer linking to CFnJ.

Anyway, the grand total in The Book of the Banned currently stands at 1042. That is, of course, only the ones we know about.

Check it out.
http://kirls.blogspot.com/2009/05/banned-monium.html

kirls
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savage on 2009-09-10 01:18 #9
*Well it's good to have you onboard LGF2. I sent you an email from the gmail account.
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donkeyrock on 2009-09-10 03:04 #10
*I was reading both JihadWatch and LGF when Chuck went after Spencer. I was concerned about things until Chuck went a bit apeshit about the kerfuffle, and then I knew Spencer was the horse to back.

I had actually lucked into an account at LGF just weeks before, and I then put in the account comments that I was protesting LGF until Chuck came to his senses for going after Robert Spencer.

Yeah, hasn't happened yet.

[I just logged in, my account still lives, and it says: "Due to the spat with JihadWatch.org, I don't read Little Green Footballs anymore." Seriously, this was like what, early 2008? 2007 sometime?]

Then I removed LGF from my blogroll and called it a day. JihadWatch was always a more informative site, more ethical, less hype.
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Kevin on 2009-09-10 03:18 #11
*You guys are giving Brian a pass on his pro-nazi activities, and frankly, I'm disgusted by you. I know FOR A FACT that Brian once bumped into a guy who knew a woman who was married to the grandson of a nazi.

Therefore, Brian C. Ledbetter is a nazi, plain and simple. Using patented CJ logic, of course.
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Kevin on 2009-09-10 03:47 #12
*Hah! If you have the time, make sure and read the comments of the two posts linked above where everyone gangs up on Brian. Very funny.

Way to hold your own against the masses, B!
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avideditor on 2009-09-10 04:56 #13
*I am glad you finally woke up. It seems to me that LGF and CJ are not the same LGF or CJ that I thought I knew a couple of years ago. Welcome to the club. Keep up the great work. That was a great comment you left when CJ kicked you out. It seems it gone down the memory hole there. Can I post it here?
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Brian C. Ledbetter on 2009-09-10 08:16 #14
*Thanks for the support, guys! It's been a surreal experience, if nothing else.

Oh, and Osprey, I think I'm going to be running with your Darwinist Rage Boy schtick. Thanks for the inspiration! :-)

Regards,
Brian

(PS: Avid, feel free to do so - I don't have any copies of my comments over here. I didn't think that he'd be petty enough to delete my comments, but I guess I should've expected as much.)
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Warner Todd Huston on 2009-09-10 13:06 #15
*Actually, I was about to banish you for being a friend of Johnson, myself! LOL

Seriously, I disassociated my blogging from LGF about 2 years ago or more. So, I am glad to see you of that sinking boat.
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The Osprey on 2009-09-10 13:22 #16
*Brian,
You are welcome to use the Darwinist Rage Boy moniker all you like. I coined the phrase on 2.0, and a number of people on the web have picked up on it. If you are more talented than I with Photoshop, and I am assuming you are, this could be very amusing for us ex LGFers. The irony of it is I actually lean more toward the evolutionist than creationist side in my own beliefs, but when it comes to politics, I'll take a creationist who supports a free market economy, a strong military and an anti-jihadist foreign policy over an evolutionist who won't. Somehow I don't think Charles understands the wisdom of that, hence the "Darwinist Rage Boy" tag which I believe he has earned with his newfound (?) belief that creationists in the Republican party are as equal a danger as jihadists. I eagerly look forward to whatever Islamic Rage Boy/Darwinist Rage Boy photoshop mashups you create.
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Daria Emmons on 2009-09-10 14:32 #17
*I guess I was banned for supporting you, Brian.

In any case, you are a friend (albeit online) of mine, and I support friends.

I think Charles has basically flew the coop if he has decided to ban people for the 'crime' of linking to Jihad Watch.

At this point, Daily Kos has less speech restrictions than LGF, and frankly, is a more conservative blog.

I wish I was joking, but sadly, I am not. I used to post now at both Daily Kos and LGF, and I can tell you that Daily Kos is unquestionably a freer marketplace of ideas than LGF.

What has happened? The degeneration of the blog is sad and troublesome.
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avideditor on 2009-09-10 15:05 #18
*I will let you Brian to post the comment if you want. it just went down the memory hole there so it is up to you now. BTW CJ is now posting really old screen shots of mine to mislead the Secret Service and others. Spencer is a hero IMHO he should be supported by people on our side not smeared.
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Brian C. Ledbetter on 2009-09-10 15:36 #19
*avid: After Charles purposefully misrepresented remarks I made to him in private, I posted the full contents of my message to him, and closed with:

"Keep up the McCarthyite purging, my friend. That is, if you have time between exposing "scary" creationists (who are clearly responsible for more bombings per week than any other group in history) and supporting Barack Obama's Troofers (in which Ace won, by the way)."

He has since deep-sixed that message (guess he doesn't want his readers to have all of the information), and then has moved on to skulking around with "sekrit" information about me that proves conclusively that I'm somehow against him, despite never having "crossed" him before.

But of course, he's too much of a coward to post any of this information in public so that everyone can read it and decide for themselves.

Whatever. I'm done with it.

Expect blogging to continue here as normal (as soon as I can catch up with my neglected RSS reader).

Regards,
Brian

PS: He's got it in for you in the worst way. What a sleazy move, Charles!
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akak on 2009-09-10 15:39 #20
*Watched it go down.

You could see it coming right from the very first comment.

You did nothing wrong.
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Brian C. Ledbetter on 2009-09-10 16:19 #21
*Thanks for the support, Akak!

FYI, I've just linked Rusty's very astute analysis of the entire situation. I could not agree more with what he has to say!
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Kevin on 2009-09-10 20:50 #22
*It's sad that you had to go through this ordeal, but if it's any consolation, I thoroughly enjoyed reading about it :-). I don't think that even the most-hardcore progressive in the world sees as many hidden nazis in the world as CJ does.

Apparently, by trying to stay out of the argument, Brian is now a 'fascist enabler'!

By that same logic, Johnson is a terrorist-enabler, since he makes stuff up about Spencer that gets used by CAIR. Funny stuff.
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Jewels on 2009-09-10 23:23 #23
*Man, I haven't read LGF in... has it been a year now? Just about, I think. Around the time that his Christianist/ Creationist paranoia began to crown. He's got his own pool of raving ragers there, doesn't he? Kinda feeding his own fury, it looks like.

Sad.

...PS- just checked out the Link Of The Damned... IowaHawk was banned? really? Heh.
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Herman on 2009-09-11 00:44 #24
*Ace put an end to LGF as far as I am concerned. Charles let his hatred of Glenn Beck cloud his judgement. He wanted Glenn to be wrong so badly that he sided with a Truther. He wouldn't even admit to the fact that Jones never denied signing a 9/11 petition, after Jones resigned. He took the word of two other Truthers(Zinn and Lerner) over Glenn Beck.

He was so zealous in his defense that he even argued for Jones in a way in which Jones wouldn't even do. Jones admitted to signing the petition.

Charles pushed face aside by saying he could "find no evidence" that Jones signed that position. Like Ace said, this sounds a lot like Dan Rathers,"I will believe the documents are fake when I find evidence of it." Funny how things come full circle.

I love Ace's blog and will have to start visiting this blog more often too.

Sorry Brian, I was pretty hurt by CJ going off the rocker too. I used to check his blog first daily, now I would sooner go to gay porn sites than his blog.
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DrBombay on 2009-09-11 06:20 #25
*I saw it happen in realtime. You were cordial and firm, Charles was a supercilious ass. I saw him make a member crawl to keep from being banned a day or two before your dustup. It was disgusting. It's time all decent and sensible people walked away from LGF.
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towerclimber on 2009-09-11 11:55 #26
*Wow...talk about remembering old nutjobs!
Is Charles Johnson STILL lathered up about Mr. Spencer?
I see he still lives in mortal fear that all of us "evil creationists" are going to sneak into his dreams and change the way he thinks, then sneak into his kitchen and pee in his rice krispies.

I too was a part of LGF until I watched him post your private remarks and other private information for the public to read.
after that I decided this ravening chihuahua was too much of a risk for me to hang out with.
I required him to remove my name and personal information from his website. Its sad, really.
I think that old Chucky has become bloated with a misplaced sense of his own importance and it leads him into so MANY wrong conclusions.
I wish him luck in all he fails to do!
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Kirly on 2009-09-11 16:30 #27
*towerclimber! we've been wondering where you got to! We have our own chat room now! join us there! you'll find scads of old friends! go to my blog, www.kirls.blogspot.com and click on the dust storm picture in the upper right.

also, to you and anyone, if you're banned come on over and get your name in the Book of the Banned!
http://kirls.blogspot.com/2009/05/banned-monium.html
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David Blue on 2009-09-15 14:58 #28
*SnapedShot, you've done an honorable and good thing in making a handsome apology to Robert Spencer. Good for you!

A lot of people should be thinking now that they were neutral too long.

Robert Spencer, Gates of Vienna, and Brussels Journal were unjustly attacked long ago, and got very little support. It's only now that Charles Johnson is fighting people like R.S. McCain and Ace - and getting spanked - that 'everyone' seems to see it's safe to call Charles on his long-standing unjust accusations or racism, fascism and so on.

A lot of people should have said 'sorry' but you're the one that did. Except for a very few people like Pamela Geller who were on the right side all along and never "played it safe" by letting a friend sink without someone to speak a word for them, I think that puts you at the top of the heap.
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captainfish on 2009-09-15 15:46 #29
*Dang, I miss a long weekend by moving and I miss a hell of alot!!!!

Brian, you are my new "camera"-oid.
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Marooned in Marin on 2009-09-15 21:29 #30
*I removed LGF from my blogroll this Spring, after "Icarus" was intent on proving the Homeland Security document on right-wing "domestic terror" was real, and was also disturbed by his war on Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. I think I still have an account there, maybe I'll ask him to ban me just for the hell of it, or post the photoshop of his face on Fonzie's "jumping the shark."
You're on my blogroll now, Brian. I don't remember if I might have met you at the ISA hearing, but if not, I hope we meet sometime.
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