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End of an Empire? [BUMPED]

I have elected to bump this story due to the discovery of the original posting by Dominic. Originally posted 2007-01-07 00:29 EST.

I ran across this on the Augean Stables, and can only describe my reaction as "shocked." To my liberal readers: If the tables were turned, and this were a white man "laying the smack down" on an ethnic, you would rightly be up in arms over this scenario. Why, then, are you silent when the tables are turned?

The West is committing "Suicide by Liberalism," day by day. Here's the whole story, for full and horrifying effect. (Update: I've moved the full text of the story off the front page, so be sure to read beyond the fold for details.)

In London today moslems dress differently, are rude to locals, jump queues, shout at us, wave their fists at us, call us ‘worthless infidel’ in public and in loud voices. I have, just four days ago, been elbowed aside by a moslem couple, with sidekicks, whilst trying to top up my Oyster card at a tube station at the automatic machine. Apparently, I had taken longer than the ten seconds that they were prepared to wait and so three burly males forced me aside and, when I objected, pushed me to the floor and - quite literally - and took over the machine which I was attempting to use.

Not, in a crowded and impatient city like London that this was a surprise, but that in this instance that I was insulted by these people was a surprise. The eldest male in the group, dressed in the usual and ridiculous garb of mohammedans everywhere, looked directly at me amd said, in quite clear English, (and I quote verbatim) “Get out of our way infidel slave”.

Update: A similar story from LionHeart UK (h/t VFR), also recorded for posterity in its entirety beyond the fold.

I spoke out against against one of the Pakistani Muslim drug dealers in my neighbourhood. They found out about this and issued me with death threats. At the time of the threats I owned my own business, a computer shop. I lived in my own place and was fairly comfortable but then because of the threats and knowing that the threateners would act, I had to shut my shop and move immediately. I did this for security and self-preservation: it is better to be alive than dead no matter what the cost. I then went from having quite a stable life to being bankrupt. These changes were costly. I couldn't just go and get a job because it would have been too dangerous for me to be publicly exposed. I could have moved completely away from Luton but I did not want to run away completely from the menace. So, I took the necessary precautions and spent the next five months watching my back but still living amongst the enemy.

If any of my esteemed British readers have their own horror stories to tell, I'm all ears. If this is truly the state of the British Empire, then count me as one loyal Virginian who is mourning the death of Her Majesty's Kingdom. Of course, similar stories from the rest of EUrabia are also welcome!

Update: Dominic's story originates on this JihadWatch thread. Moreover, to add insult to injury, Dominic is identified by other posters (and is more than welcome to correct me if I'm relaying this information falsely) as a female, which definitely explains the barbarousness of the thugs' behaviour. (Dominic has corrected this below: He is definitely a he.) Thanks to JW poster Malinois for pointing the link out!The first story, from the Augean Stables:

I could not agree more with your last post if I tried. Yes, of course, moslems are an alien body in our midst. Every day in London - on the tube, in shops, in parks, whilst shopping, whilst going about the 101 tasks that make up an average life - this is borne in on me.

In London today moslems dress differently, are rude to locals, jump queues, shout at us, wave their fists at us, call us ‘worthless infidel’ in public and in loud voices. I have, just four days ago, been elbowed aside by a moslem couple, with sidekicks, whilst trying to top up my Oyster card at a tube station at the automatic machine. Apparently, I had taken longer than the ten seconds that they were prepared to wait and so three burly males forced me aside and, when I objected, pushed me to the floor and - quite literally - and took over the machine which I was attempting to use.

Not, in a crowded and impatient city like London that this was a surprise, but that in this instance that I was insulted by these people was a surprise. The eldest male in the group, dressed in the usual and ridiculous garb of mohammedans everywhere, looked directly at me amd said, in quite clear English, (and I quote verbatim) “Get out of our way infidel slave”.

You may imagine how I felt at that moment. To be so insulted in my own capital city was stunning. It took all my self-control not to do something rash at that moment.

Knowing that CCTV cameras would have captured this incident I complained, some three hours later (after having completed my journey and return), to the British Transport Police on the Broadway. I need not have bothered. Not only would no-one there take my complaint of ‘technical assault and insult’ seriously but no-one to whom I spoke was even prepared to initiate any paperwork whatsoever nor were they remotely prepared to find and look at the video recordings. Indeed, one Officer even said to me that I ’should swallow my pride’ and live with it because - and, once again, I quote verbatim ‘you are just being racist and you have to remember that it’s cultural with them’.

Obviously, at this point, I indicated that I felt that I had been physically assaulted and that I would really like to have my complaint investigated. Well, this is really where everything about that evening begins to stick in my craw. When I said that, the Officer of the BTP who was listening to me actually cautioned me and warned me that if I persisted with making a nuisance of myself I would be charged under the The Race Relations Act 1976 and the RRAA (Race Relations (Amendment) Act) 2000.

I gave up at this point. Cowardice is sometimes the better part of valour. But, damn it, they won, didn’t they? I have been intimidated into a dhimmi position by them and the very powers which should have protected me in my own country.

“Happy New Year everyone”, I say in a bitter tone of voice.

Dominic.

Update: L-O-L! At least Google AdSense is good at preparing us for our coming Muslim overlords:

Methinks some AdSense tuning might be in order...


The second story, from LionHeart UK:

In Luton, we live under Islamic domination, "Dhimmitude". The most feared part of the Muslim community is the Pakistani Muslim youth, most of whom are connected to the drugs trade one way or another, either through family or friends. This part of the community holds the non-Muslim community hostage through fear and intimidation. They are highly organised, heavily funded from drug trafficking and heavily armed. Many of the key drug players drive top of the range Bentley, Mercedes, Porsche and Land Rover automobiles. They also own businesses which have been bought with the proceeds of drug dealing.

Luton's Pakistanis have access to guns, a fact well-known by the frequency of armed incidents including violent armed robbery and shootings which have occurred over the years. A known fact is that there is a large Irish community in Luton through which Luton Pakistani Muslims have bought guns, being sourced from the IRA. This is why a Luton police officer once commented to me that the Muslim quarter of Luton, Bury Park, is awash with guns. I personally know people involved in gun related incidents and other incidents of violent crime perpetrated by the Luton Pakistani Muslims. As part of the Luton community we see and hear these things happening around us perpetrated by Luton's Pakistani Muslims. We see their violent tendencies. Through the Pakistani Muslims' familiarity and passion for violence, the rest of the community live in fear of the consequences of causing them even the slightest bit of what they would deem as trouble. This situation leaves the community's non-Muslims intimidated and threatened, that is, in Dhimmitude. Thus, it seems better to stay silent in the face of such intimidation and allow their criminal drug empires to continue unchallenged than to speak up and face their wrath.

This violent and dangerous situation is reinforced by the extremist religious element of the Pakistani Muslims who openly declare Jihad and war against Britain and the West on Luton's streets. This adds to the complete picture when we look at our Muslim neighbours. So, whether they are religious Muslims openly calling for violent Jihad, Muslim criminals supplying drugs or Muslim terrorists, they are all brothers in Islam working to the same agenda of converting the UK into an Islamic state governed by Sharia Law.

Within the Muslim psyche, there are the tenets "Dar al-Islam" and "Dar al-Harb." Dar al-Islam means 'house of peace' and Dar al-Harb means 'house of war'. This psyche perceives the world split into these two camps. Islamic countries governed by Sharia law are Dar al-Islam and the non-Muslim countries not governed by Sharia law are Dar al-Harb. It is a religious obligation for every Muslim who is living in a country under Dar al-Harb to convert that country into a Dar al-Islam one. While a country is Dar al-Harb, it is meant to be in a perpetual state of war as preached by its Muslim clerics. Hence, Muslims living under Dar al-Harb view it as a war zone. As such, they are allowed to conduct themselves in a warlike manner toward non Muslims in working toward the goal of converting the country into the 'house of peace' with the imposition of Sharia Law. During times of war, rape, pillage, killing and destruction are permitted with the aim of converting the host nation into Dar al-Islam. So, within Luton the Muslim community conduct themselves exactly as Islam teaches. They have a total disregard for the laws of Britain and are actively killing and destroying their non-Muslim neighbours by supplying hard drugs, and, in the process forcing the rest of the community to live as Dhimmis through fear in the face of their intimidation.

I spoke out against against one of the Pakistani Muslim drug dealers in my neighbourhood. They found out about this and issued me with death threats. At the time of the threats I owned my own business, a computer shop. I lived in my own place and was fairly comfortable but then because of the threats and knowing that the threateners would act, I had to shut my shop and move immediately. I did this for security and self-preservation: it is better to be alive than dead no matter what the cost. I then went from having quite a stable life to being bankrupt. These changes were costly. I couldn't just go and get a job because it would have been too dangerous for me to be publicly exposed. I could have moved completely away from Luton but I did not want to run away completely from the menace. So, I took the necessary precautions and spent the next five months watching my back but still living amongst the enemy.

The Pakistani Muslims own 95% of all taxis driving around the streets of Luton. Furthermore, one cannot go anywhere without there being a Pakistani Muslim taxi nearby. I was followed on many occasions by taxis trying to intimidate me. I told this to the police and they responded by saying that the Muslim community are very resourceful in using taxis to follow people and also using them to move drugs around. Taxi drivers are the eyes and ears of the Muslim menace in Luton - they know exactly who everyone is and where everyone lives.

Attending the local college are many young Muslims from Luton. On one occasion, I had coffee with a college friend and the day after when he went to his classes several young Pakistani Muslims approached him and pointed out that they had seen him with me. I then realised I could not go anywhere without Pakistani Muslims watching me. So, in Luton I became a sitting duck, waiting for the moment when the Muslims would find me and put a knife in my side or worse. I lived under the shadow of their threats and I knew what they were capable of doing to those they despised. The final straw for me came when I practically ran out of money and became homeless. I had no way now of protecting myself or hiding properly anymore. I had a good friend who sheltered me for a little while but it wasn't working - there was no quality of life for me. Then, another good friend offered to buy me an airline ticket to get me out of the danger. I took him up on that offer and flew to Israel where I have found refuge. But still, I am penniless, homeless and the serious threats to my life back in England hang in my mind and all because I helped the police arrest a Pakistani Muslim drug dealer who is at war with my country and the Britishway of life, destroying my community and flooding it with crack cocaine and heroin.

The community and it seems the police are powerless to stop what is happening in Luton. It is a clear indication that Islam is achieving its aim of overwhelming and controlling Britain.

If anyone else has any horror stories to tell, I'm all ears. Be sure to share them in the comments below!

  TROP


Comments:

#1 Hapkido 07-Jan-2007
Ah, relativism rears it's ugly head again! I honestly understand why Dominic would be so frustrated.

Now, this IS going off an account & so there may be fabrication/exaggeration involved. Assuming that's not the case, I can tell you that three-on-one odds - no matter who you are - just aren't reasonable for confronting anyone.

That being said I wouldn't have been likely to back down in that case. No, I'm not particularly aggressive. However, I AM of the mind that evil should be confronted.

The fact the police would do nothing speaks volumes for how complacent the west has become & it's failure in asserting its own culture has the right to exist.
#2 Brian 07-Jan-2007
Hapkido,

Yeah, assuming this story is true, his odds definitely weren't any good - unless some of his fellow citizens were to help him stand up to the thugs that did this to him. Based on the reaction of the police department, it seems that the answer to that would be unfortunately obvious...

I suppose they could use more teachers of your particular trade over there, huh?

;)

Warmest Regards,
Brian
#3 Hapkido 07-Jan-2007
Unfortunately, I don't think many people want to get involved. That's generally a good policy in cases like fights (where all parties are committing to violence) but in a case of assault intervention becomes necessary.

I'm not suggesting folks jump into the fray directly. I AM saying people should notify the authorities or say *something* for Heaven's sake!

Sadly, self-defense is becoming all too necessary in this world. There are over 20 kids in my instructor's TKD class & he makes darn sure they know the basics of how to get away. I think everyone should do the same. It's about being prepared to protect yourself.

What would I have done? Well, I certainly would have choice words for them. Still, we have three people who have demonstrated they're willing to cause harm. Even with the modicum of skill I possess, I'd never confront three hostile people. Unless other people are willing to stand collectively against this sort of tyrranistic behavior, there's nothing one person can do in a direct confrontation. I think "Dominic" took the best action for the situation.
#4 Nilk 07-Jan-2007
Dominic may have taken the most appropriate action, but what about the authorities and those charged with the protection of the population?

Surely the the transit police should have taken some action also?

Or is it okay for people to be assaulted for taking too long at a ticket machine?
#5 Brian 07-Jan-2007
Nilk,

I think you've perfectly described the problems inherent in creating "protected" classes via law. Some people, sadly, have become more equal than the rest of us.

Regards,
Brian
#6 Hapkido 07-Jan-2007
Nilk,

That's a good point. Yes, the police should be taken to task. Cowering behind a blanket of laws designed to create, as Brian said, a "protected" class is beyond weak.

Claiming Dominic would be charged under these enacted laws floors me.

Simply put, the law should guarantee equal treatment & opportunity for all. Historically, failure to uphold the very tenets of our modern society indicates we'll go the way of the Roman Empire. Implosion.
#7 Nilk 08-Jan-2007
Indeed, Hapkido and Brian.

As a friend of mine is fond of reminding me, the government is charged with the responsibility of protecting the population from harm. If it fails in that duty of care, expect the population to take matters into their own hands.
#8 ex3cate 08-Jan-2007
I recently completed my MA in Creative Writing and submitted the following to a workshop. Many of my classmates said they didn't like it because it would only encourage people to vote for the BNP. I am in a mixed race marriage and do not support the BNP. This chapter is one of 64, most of which document similar experiences whilst living in China.


07.07.05

“London has won the Olympics,” says one student, as he unfolds a copy of the Metro and takes his seat with a nine o’ clock yawn.
“Right,” I acknowledge, as I shuffle my papers into sequence on my desk, “That’s right yeah.”
“Are you proud?”
“Not really,” I tell him with a shrug and a smile, “Nah.”
“But this is good for your country no?” says someone else, “To show off the Queen and be proud no?”
“There is that,” I say. “Though a lot of English people aren’t that patriotic. Do you feel that Indian people are patriotic?”
“Yes,” they chorus back at me, “Of course.”
“Do you like sport?” asks someone else.
“S’ok,” I say. “S’alright.”
“Do you play any sports?”
“Not really,” I tell him. “I watch football on the tele and sometimes do some yoga, that’s about it to be honest. That and a bit of hiking and some mountain bike rides.”
“From India, yoga is from India.”
“Yeah,” I reply. “Buddhism too, right?”
“The Buddha,” he says, picking up the thread. “He’s like Jesus no, and the other religious figures?”
“A prophet?” I say.
“Osama Bin Laden is the holy man no?” says a second student, Surat.
“Ah?” I tell him, “Bin Laden is a holy man?”
“He had the money and turned his back on it like a saint and went to the dessert.”
“I’m sure he’s not without a bob or three,” I tell him. “I’m sure Osama still has access to more money than I ever will?”
“Ah?” he asks, “Eh?”
“Seems like nobody knows where he went to, maybe he’s in Riyadh – who knows?” I say, hoping to change the topic and begin the lesson on phonology.
“In Saudi Arabia?”
“In Saudi Arabia.”
“You like Bin Laden?” someone else asks Surat.
“He hurt America for the bad things it has done.”
“D’you think he should be seen as a hero for killing innocent civilians of all kinds from all over the globe?” I venture with a smile.
“It’s what happens,” answers Surat.
“You think its ok for Indian civilians to be killed as a consequence of the policies of their government?” I ask before he thwacks me with his clanging insight.
“Osama Bin Laden is like Buddha no – the divine?” he says. “Immortal.”
“Bin Laden is divine?” I want to confirm, thinking I’d rather rub my own arse with a brick than talk to this prat. Surat’s petulant and sat squirming at my question, sprawled in his chair like a ten year old with a cacky arse and telling me, “He can talk to the god, Bush can’t; he can only pray to god and talk to god. God speaks directly to Osama Bin Laden, he said so.”
“So you think it’s ok to kill Americans and people in America and that they ought to be held accountable with their lives for the literal or perceived crimes of one man and his circle?”
“Yes,” he tells me without a flinch. “Yes of course.”
“Do you mind?” I ask him, “If I ask; are you Christian?”
“Hindu,” he tells me. “I’m Hindu.”
“Every American is a target?” I ask.
“Yes,” Surat repeats.
“And if Tony Blair and Britain does the same as Bush and America in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, then Britons and U.K. residents, international students, people on business, refugees, asylum seekers, migrant workers, tourists and whomever else – all these people should be prepared to be held accountable with their lives for the actions of one man and his circle?”
“Yes,” he tells me. “Yes.”
“So you’re prepared – as an international student – to die for the opportunity to come to the U.K. and be held accountable with your life for the actions of Bush and the avenues of foreign policy that he has pursued?”
“Ah?” he tells me - “What?”
“You’d die for Bush?”
“Oh?” he says. “Ooooohh!”
“S’what they call Stockholm syndrome that you know; when folk get to start defending the actions of their own persecutors.”
“Arh?” he says, a bit flustered. “What?”
I explain myself again and he starts to think; post-graduate too this lad, with a degree in International Commerce. So, I’m glad he’s not counting the fuck my pennies.
“Bin Laden can communicate to god?” I again want to confirm.
“That’s what he says,” he says.
“And you believe that?”
“Why not?”
“You think Bin Laden is Buddha-like and divine and worthy of respect, but at the same time, you’re ready to die for his enemies George Bush the Second and all Americans, Tony Blair and each and every one of us Britons by coming here to the U.K. to study?”
“Ah?” he tells me, and I repeat myself.
“Not really,” he says. “No not really.”
“But you would advocate the killing of British people?”
“Bin Laden is like Buddha,” he reminds me.
“Yeah,” I say - “So you say. And you think that people with money who go off to the dessert are holy? So, how is it that you’re so interested in capitalist opportunity, looking for a post-graduate diploma from a British institute of further education?”
“Right,” he tells me, wanting to avoid committal. “Yeah.”
“And British people should ready themselves to die, yeah?”
“Yeah,” he tells me. “Yes.”
“Your ideology is opposed to mine right, and you believe it is ok for me to die for what Bush has done?”
“Yes.”
“You think I should respect you as an Indian national and teach you English in a Cultural Context here in England, and accept the fact that you think that my life is disposable and that yours is not?”
“Yes,” he tells me. “S’ok.”
“This is ok?” I ask.
“S’ok,” he says. “Yeah.”
“Well,” I tell him, as I’m dutifully obliged to say with a shrug and another smile. “S’up to you I suppose, and we’ll agree to disagree yeah?”

Class finishes at 12:30 and I go home. Around two my wife Wang Ping phones from work as I’m watching the news to tell me she’s hot and to whine on a bit about her boss.
“I’m bored,” she tells me. “What’re you doing?”
“Nowt much love, just watching the tele and thinking about work.”
“Why?” she asks me. “What happened?”
I explain the conversation with Surat, and we chat about the four bombs that went off a few hours back this morning in London; three on the underground and one on a bus. We briefly discuss what we’ve seen and heard on the news.
“This is very strange,” she tells me. “Different from our China.”
“How so?” I ask.
“The British government is making the rule that allow opinions for the people that sympathize with Bin Laden that say the bad thing about the west and threaten people. But, the people born here can’t say their feelings and experiences no?”
“Well we can, but we’re sort of encouraged not to make too much of a fuss when we’re dealt shite. If I were to mention this at work in the staff room, folk’d just busy themselves wi’ nowt and do something else.
“Why?”
“People are afraid to speak out in case they’re accused of being racist or discriminatory or something. They don’t want to lose their jobs.
“Ah?” she says. “What.”
I explain again.
“So terrorism works?” she tells me.
“I suppose it might love yeah.”
“What?” she asks. “It’s noisy here, I can’t hear too well.”
“Nowt love,” I tell her. “Nothing.”
“K,” she tells me before adding - “But it’s ok for your foreign students and the others who don’t like you English ghosts to complain?”
“Hey,” I offer as a joke. “Nobody likes us, except for some daft Americans.”
“So why don’t you complain; it’s not equal yeah?” she asks.
“It’s what?” I say, as I think how to explain. “Folk can’t always be arsed.”
“A what?”
“It’s better if we don’t complain too much; it’d only inflame things and cause bother, so we have to put up with some stuff sometimes, like when we get hassled in the classrooms and corridors at work or out on the streets, in the clubs or on the buses.”
She laughs at me. “And anti-British talking doesn’t inflame things?”
There’s a longish pause so I ask her, “Still bored?”
“No,” she says, her mood now changed. “The English man!” she says, spluttering with laughter. “Why the English man like to waste so much of his time to collect the many big stones, and then drop them on his own toes?”
“Maybe he does,” I tell her.
“Why?” she says, now laughing uproariously.
“God only knows,” I tell her. “Who knows?”
#9 George 08-Jan-2007
Re: The story from the Augean Stables:

Unlikely to have happened. Total unadulterated BULLSHIT.

"I spoke out against one of the Pakistani Muslim drug dealers in my neighbourhood. They found out about this and issued me with death threats."

You're lucky it was a "Pakistani Muslim drug dealer". Speak out against a white drug dealer of British heritage and see what happens...

If you believe every Muslim is evil, then confront them, face to face. You're tough enough to do that, are you not? *cough*
#10 Brian 08-Jan-2007
Ex,

That looks quite creative to me - Thank you very much for sharing it with us!

Warmest Regards,
Brian
#11 Dominic. 08-Jan-2007
I afraid that I am undeniably male - and white, anglo-saxon, Christian, five feet ten inches tall with unruly, mousy hair, glasses and of slim (wiry) build. I am in my mid-twenties and I am an archaeologist working for a 'private' concern specialising in rescue archaeology.

Why anyone should think that I am female I don't know but I am not insulted by this. Perhaps it is because I am gay and I make no secret of the fact and maybe that makes my writings read a little more feminine than most; I don't know!

Anyway, this is a great site. Keep up the good work.

Dominic.
#12 Zlin 08-Jan-2007
"Muslim" and "Islam" are used interchangeably. When a Muslim criminal is caught, Muslims, led by their mullahs start a caterwaul that Islam is being threatened.

Islam itself survives this way. Islam calls for rigidly adhering to what the Koran says. And what does the Koran say?

It says Jews and Christians and all non Muslims are always wrong, and in some circumstances it is OK to kill them.

Check it out yourself - it's going to be particularly important for you folks who live in Britainistan.
#13 Ken Zimms 08-Jan-2007
I know I don't have to state this, everyone already knows this, some day in the not to distant future traditional Europe will get some balls back and it will be off with the Mussies once and for all.
Stay safe, arm yourselves, be ready
Make Sir Winston Churchhill proud.
#14 ex3cate 09-Jan-2007
Cheers Brian, though in all truth it's not creative at all, it's just what happened. Ta for taking the time to read. Sincere regards - Ex.
#15 Gaffney 09-Jan-2007
Evidently Loo-ton needs flushing.

As is well known, we bloody-handed Yanks (like the Aussies) have a lower tolerance for that sort of shi'ite. It might've been worth buying some merchandise from the good Irish vendors *first,* then taking on the immediate nest of drug-thugs. Off as many as need it, plunder their money, burn their HQ--*then* disappear. Give 'em Master Sun, Chicago-style.

That's all assuming you haven't tried prayer yet, of course...
#16 zlin 09-Jan-2007
"Traditional Europe" will have to do an Islam on Muslims to change anything. Europe opted for equality and rule of law and allowed people to pour in expecting that they would join, rather than live separately within Europe. There was, and is, no law against that.

Of course if new Muslim nations are formed out of areas of Europe it won't surprise me. Islam believes that a Muslim majority area is "dar ul Islam" - or "house of peace" and an area where non muslims are a majority is called "dar ul harb" or "house of war". At least one country, Pakistan, was formed because Muslims said that they could not live with non Muslims in India.

Think Bradford. Think Keighley. Pakistan of the North. Alla o Ackbur.
#17 buzzdroid 09-Jan-2007
sorry man but its utter crap that the IRA are selling their weapons. the guns are coming from eastern europe, via bosnia and kosovo.

do you honestly think that the IRA would jeopardis the Northern Ireland peace process by arming Jihadists in England?

its utter and total nonsense. sounds more like a racist jibe at the Irish in Luton. total and utter crap.
#18 Rhiannon 09-Jan-2007
You sound like the brownshirts in 1930s Germany. "Aliens, rude, not-like-us, greedy, criminal etc..." You w*nkers..
#19 Brian 09-Jan-2007
Rhiannon,

Thank you for illustrating the Left's position on this story. I'm glad to know that _you_ have no problems with beating down homosexuals - so long as "ethnics" do the beating. I guess that's what you Leftist "w*nkers" mean by "diversity," huh?

Regards,
Brian
#20 LionHeart 09-Jan-2007
George: Your tone sounds like somebody I know! I hope for your sake that it's not.

The only reason i have replied to you is because the owner of this site emailed me to tell me about your comment as he does not usually get hate mail on his site.

His usual readers must be a little bit more intelligent than yourself.

Rather than me waste my time and thinking capacity on you, all I will say is go read my site before you start spouting your opinions on things you know nothing about.

As for confronting them face to face (which you wrongly presumed I have not), I would be more than willing and happy to have an open debate with any Muslim, so why don't you set it up for me 'George'?
#21 George 09-Jan-2007
"Why I had to leave Luton"

You left Luton because you're a shit-stirring COWARD, envious of people of colour who are doing well for themselves, and contributing a great deal to the British economy.

You call yourself "LionHeart"? ChickenHeart or YellowBelly would be more appropriate.
#22 LionHeart 09-Jan-2007
George: I wasn't going to reply but could not help myself after seeing your response - it made me laugh.

This is not a colour thing but you obviously have a complex about the issue so let's clear that up first.

"shit-stirring COWARD", Your Muslim brothers are at war with my country so any Muslim drug dealer destroying my community and people's lives deserves to be locked up, it is a shame more non-Muslim Brits do not do the same and rid our communities of the likes of you and your ilk.
#23 LionHeart 09-Jan-2007
It is a fact that the Pakistani Muslim community bought guns from the IRA because i know people from within the community.

This is not a racist jibe because i have many Irish friends, this is an account based on facts and i apologise if there are Irish people offended about the truth.

The guns probably are coming in now from Eastern Europe.

My apologies buzzdroid...
#24 George 09-Jan-2007
"This is not a colour thing but you obviously have a complex about the issue so let's clear that up first."

What, like the complex you have about your masculinity, so as to call yourself "LionHeart"?

Basic psychology tells me that you are the type of person who wouldn't say "boo" to a goose.

Now go act tough behind that keyboard of yours, and scare (LOL) all those exclusively Muslim drug dealers in the country...

Oh, by the way, the drug dealer whose guard dog, a pitbull, recently savaged his five-year-old niece to death...was he a Muslim, by any chance? Just thought I'd ask.
#25 George 09-Jan-2007
"It is a fact that the Pakistani Muslim community bought guns from the IRA because i [sic] know people from within the community."

Gosh!!! This would have made "Breaking News" internationally had you reported this "fact" to the relevant authorities. Why didn't you? Oh, let me guess, you were too busy ridding your community of the exclusively Muslim drug dealers. Right?

What's your next mission? Clearing the streets of Irish gun-runners, perhaps?
#26 forest 09-Jan-2007
"George: Your tone sounds like somebody I know! I hope for your sake that it's not."

George Galloway?
#27 Tim 10-Jan-2007
I really am concerned about the future of Britain. Islam IS unique in its anti-assimilationist attitudes and its unique ability to slowly enter and subvert a population. Read about how Muslims invaded and conquered Persia. It isn't pretty and it really does seem like something similar is happening in Britain.
#28 LionHeart 10-Jan-2007
George: This is the last reply you're going to get from me as I've wasted enough time on you and your stupid comments.

Go check my site, my picture is up online so i do not sit behind a computer screen making claims, i put my name to things i say unlike yourself sitting faceless and meaningless behind yours.

LionHeart encapsulates the spirit of the British against the likes of you, 'The enemy',

As you will see, the British drug dealer sold cannabis which is now a Class C drug that has killed no one, where as your brothers in arms, using Heroin and Crack cocaine which are Class A drugs are killing and destroying on a daily basis.

Your claims and opinions are flawed just like you and your personality, so go get a life, your lifestyle and opinions are different to mine and i am a true Brit, unlike what i can say for you, your a disgusting dirty enemy of the British crown and the sooner your exposed the better.

LionHeart
#29 LionHeart 10-Jan-2007
George: You had better hope that my next mission isn't coming looking for you, or sending someone to find you for me.

Your time will come!

God bless

LionHeart (The spirit of the British)
#30 LionHeart 10-Jan-2007
**comment removed upon LH's request. -Brian**
#31 Brian 10-Jan-2007
George,

A couple of remarks, in response to your various posts on this thread:

"Islam" is not a race, it is a religion, and as such, it has a "culture" which is distinct from what one would consider a "traditional" British culture. So therefore, my question to you, is, "Can a multi-cultural society survive, if the said multiple cultures involved will not integrate with or otherwise [u]accept[/u] each other?"

As an aside, it'd be nice if you would be more civil in your discourse. If you have [i][u]facts[/u][/i] which dispute what LH is saying, I'd love to hear them, and see the documentation confirming them. After all, facts are [u]facts[/u], right? Calling him a "pussy," and otherwise attempting to abuse him, does not seem to me to be the higher road in debate.

Of course, that's assuming that you [i]want[/i] to take the higher road. You're welcome to continue residing down in the ol' muck and mire, if that's what you prefer. Just bear in mind that you're slinging mud on [b]my forum[/b] right now, and while I've tolerated it so far, I will not allow it to get much worse than it is now.

Regards,
Brian
#32 Brian 10-Jan-2007
-edit-

Basic reading comprehension is in order for Brian. George, I noticed that you didn't use the phrase in question against HK, and I apologise for suggesting that you did.

LionHeart, please see my comments re: civility above. If we're going to engage in debate, let's do so in the spirits of our noble ancestors, not in the gutters we detest.

Again, my apologies for my confusion,

Brian
#33 winslow 10-Jan-2007
I have taken the liberty of translating Dominic's report of the incident in order to post it in a forum thread in my country, Spain.

With the deepest solidarity,
Winslow.
#34 George 10-Jan-2007
"George: This is the last reply you're going to get from me as I've wasted enough time on you and your stupid comments."

So you keep saying. But you still keep those replies coming.

Indecisiveness is a sign of weakness. Seek counselling to try and overcome it.

"i am a true Brit"

I'm afraid you're not. A true Brit does not flee his hometown to avoid the wrath of a drug dealer, "Pakistani Muslim" or otherwise.

It's better to die fighting than to go into hiding.
#35 George 10-Jan-2007
*edit: Paul's bio indicates he was deep in the thick of it before being forced out.*
#36 MSgt 10-Jan-2007
If the situation has deteriorated to this degree and the authorities refuse to take any action, there are only two courses open to the new dhimmi class: Emigrate, or take the law into your own hands. There are more than enough of you to do it, but so many years of socialist paradise may have left the British unable to do anything for themselves. If you can't develop the nerve to fight back, you don't deserve the country you used to have.

Just don't emigrate to the U.S.-- we already have enough Democrats here that will just get in the way when it starts to happen here.
#37 George 10-Jan-2007
*edit: George, you'll find his name documented elsewhere, in full.*
#38 10-Jan-2007
Brian: I asked you to remove my comment after i had written it because i knew it was wrong to lower myself down to George's level. I then came onto your site and saw you have written two comments slating me even after i had asked you to remove my comment because of my mistake. You even emailed me understanding my mistake saying that you are hot headed too sometimes. This still did not prevent you from slating me on your forum.

One question: How comes when George called me "shit-stirring COWARD" "ChickenHeart or YellowBelly" did you not comment on his gutter talk on your site or remove the item comment altogether?

i am very dissapointed...
#39 Brian 10-Jan-2007
Paul,

I can assure you that my ire in #14 was directed wholly at George, and not at yourself. Unfortunately, I selected the wrong comment to cite. I definitely have no intention of sleighting you in any way, and assure you that I was genuinely trying to keep the debate on track. George's boorish behaviour (as illustrated in #10.1.1, 10.1.1.1.1, etc.) spoke for itself, until I felt it went "too far" for the discourse, at which point I tried to step in and calm things down.

Guess that didn't work out all that well, huh? My sincerest apologies, Sir. I hope you won't hold my failings in doing so against me.

[b]To George[/b]: if you have any further *facts* to add to the debate, you're welcome to do so. If you continue to engage in useless slander, I will be striking your further abuses from the record.

Most Respectfully,
Brian
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