Once again the United Nations sides with Islamic terrorists and condemns Israel's defensive measures to protect its civilians.
Ignoring the fact that Hamas terrorists have launched several missile attacks against civilian populations in recent days, U.N. spokesman made this comment about Israel's latest blockade:
"This is both a physical as well as a mental punishment of the population - of mothers and parents trying to feed their children - who are being forced to live hand to mouth," he said.
"It is a further illustration of the barbarity of this inhuman blockade."
Of course, there is no "barbarity" or "inhumanity" in firing missiles into populations of Israeli mothers and parents trying to feed their children.
Also:
See U.N. Ambulances assisting Palestinians HERE.
See how the U.N. responds to Israel's demand for Human Rights for all people HERE.
(Cross-posted at Al Salibiyyah)
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Comments:
#2 DMartyr 17-Nov-2008
Bullshit. Hamas has been firing missiles into Israel since the beginning of the ceasefire.
The blockade is the *result* of missiles being fired, not the other way around. If "civilians" would stop aiding, protecting, and hiding militants, they wouldn't be "punished."
If Israel carpet bombed the entire Gaza strip, I wouldn't shed a tear.
The blockade is the *result* of missiles being fired, not the other way around. If "civilians" would stop aiding, protecting, and hiding militants, they wouldn't be "punished."
If Israel carpet bombed the entire Gaza strip, I wouldn't shed a tear.
#3 upyernoz 17-Nov-2008
Bullshit. Hamas has been firing missiles into Israel since the beginning of the ceasefire.
huh? i guess you aren't aware of what ceasefire i was talking about. between the beginning of the ceasefire in june 2008 and november 4, 2008 hamas didn't fire any rockets into israel. in return, israel didn't make any incursions into gaza. however, israel's blockade of gaza continued. it's been going on for about 2 years, although the particularities of what goods the israelis have been barred have varied at various times.
the current ceasefire was broken on november 5th when israel made in incursion into gaza to demolish those famous tunnels. in response to israel breaking the deal, hamas fired rockets into israel. that, in turn, caused israel to tighten the blockade.
it seems to me that you're not aware of most of this history.
and you're advocating the murder of 1.5 million people. they're not "civilians" they're civilians, no quotes. they are cut off from the rest of the world and being starved into submission by the israeli government right now, which, i might add, is a war crime.
and i note that you didn't answer my question above, so i'll repeat it: if you were starving because of a military blockade of food and medical supplies and had stockpiles of missiles lying around, wouldn't you shoot at the people blockading you?
a lot of israel's policies are short-sighted and ultimately hurt israeli interests in the long term. collectively punishing all of gaza is an example of that. mindlessly cheering on any harsh measure used by the israeli government doesn't do israel any favors. i find it odd that people who claim to be pro-israel often are in favor of stuff that hurts israeli interests.
take it from a guy who has israeli relatives, and who was just there a few months ago.
huh? i guess you aren't aware of what ceasefire i was talking about. between the beginning of the ceasefire in june 2008 and november 4, 2008 hamas didn't fire any rockets into israel. in return, israel didn't make any incursions into gaza. however, israel's blockade of gaza continued. it's been going on for about 2 years, although the particularities of what goods the israelis have been barred have varied at various times.
the current ceasefire was broken on november 5th when israel made in incursion into gaza to demolish those famous tunnels. in response to israel breaking the deal, hamas fired rockets into israel. that, in turn, caused israel to tighten the blockade.
it seems to me that you're not aware of most of this history.
and you're advocating the murder of 1.5 million people. they're not "civilians" they're civilians, no quotes. they are cut off from the rest of the world and being starved into submission by the israeli government right now, which, i might add, is a war crime.
and i note that you didn't answer my question above, so i'll repeat it: if you were starving because of a military blockade of food and medical supplies and had stockpiles of missiles lying around, wouldn't you shoot at the people blockading you?
a lot of israel's policies are short-sighted and ultimately hurt israeli interests in the long term. collectively punishing all of gaza is an example of that. mindlessly cheering on any harsh measure used by the israeli government doesn't do israel any favors. i find it odd that people who claim to be pro-israel often are in favor of stuff that hurts israeli interests.
take it from a guy who has israeli relatives, and who was just there a few months ago.
#4 DMartyr 18-Nov-2008
Your question is impossible to answer because I would never support terrorists in the first place.
These people breed to raise terrorists. They send their children out in hopes they'll become martyrs. They cowardly target innocent civilians. And then they - and people who support them (like yourself) - have the audacity to complain when Israel defends itself?
All the terrorists have to do is STOP firing missiles at Israeli populations. That's it. The blockade would end. Stop attacking and get your food.
If not a blockade, how should Israel respond?
Should they drop a bomb on a known militant's house? No, because these Palestinian cowards hide among civilians. Then people like you would be complaining about those deaths.
Should Israel send in troops? No, because then people like you would complain about "occupation."
Should Israel just sit back and allow its citizens to be targeted and slaughtered? Yeah, I guess that's your preference.
These people breed to raise terrorists. They send their children out in hopes they'll become martyrs. They cowardly target innocent civilians. And then they - and people who support them (like yourself) - have the audacity to complain when Israel defends itself?
All the terrorists have to do is STOP firing missiles at Israeli populations. That's it. The blockade would end. Stop attacking and get your food.
If not a blockade, how should Israel respond?
Should they drop a bomb on a known militant's house? No, because these Palestinian cowards hide among civilians. Then people like you would be complaining about those deaths.
Should Israel send in troops? No, because then people like you would complain about "occupation."
Should Israel just sit back and allow its citizens to be targeted and slaughtered? Yeah, I guess that's your preference.
#5 upyernoz 18-Nov-2008
"Your question is impossible to answer because I would never support terrorists in the first place."
i.e.in other words, you're avoiding the question by branding everyone with the misfortune to be born in gaza a "terrorist" or "terrorist supporter." again, we're talking about 1.5 million people. they're individuals with a variety of different views about what to do.
you're ignoring all of that, dismissing them all as "guilty" (regardless of what they have actually done) and endorsing the commission of a war crime against them.
"All the terrorists have to do is STOP firing missiles at Israeli populations. That's it. The blockade would end. Stop attacking and get your food."
but that's not what happened. as i noted above, the missiles stopped for five months (june to early november) and the blockade continued. why not respond to what actually happened instead of ignoring the stuff that undercuts what you say?
"Should Israel just sit back and allow its citizens to be targeted and slaughtered? Yeah, I guess that's your preference."
who says that's my preference? have you asked me? actually, i think israel should recommit to the ceasefire (as hamas is asking them to) and lift the blockade on food and medicine. they should also work to
the idea that i want israelis to be killed is ludacris. i have family who are israeli! which is why the guessing what i must want to happen style of argument is such a bad way to go. it's a sure-fire way to lose an argument. after all, i know what goes on in my head better than you. as soon as you start telling me what i believe or i want, you've lost. i am always a better authority on those subjects than you. and when you guess wrong about what i am thinking, it also makes you look rather foolish.
i don't really get why so many arguments with conservatives ends up being about what i want or believe. why are you so attracted to a sure-fire loser argument like that?
i.e.in other words, you're avoiding the question by branding everyone with the misfortune to be born in gaza a "terrorist" or "terrorist supporter." again, we're talking about 1.5 million people. they're individuals with a variety of different views about what to do.
you're ignoring all of that, dismissing them all as "guilty" (regardless of what they have actually done) and endorsing the commission of a war crime against them.
"All the terrorists have to do is STOP firing missiles at Israeli populations. That's it. The blockade would end. Stop attacking and get your food."
but that's not what happened. as i noted above, the missiles stopped for five months (june to early november) and the blockade continued. why not respond to what actually happened instead of ignoring the stuff that undercuts what you say?
"Should Israel just sit back and allow its citizens to be targeted and slaughtered? Yeah, I guess that's your preference."
who says that's my preference? have you asked me? actually, i think israel should recommit to the ceasefire (as hamas is asking them to) and lift the blockade on food and medicine. they should also work to
the idea that i want israelis to be killed is ludacris. i have family who are israeli! which is why the guessing what i must want to happen style of argument is such a bad way to go. it's a sure-fire way to lose an argument. after all, i know what goes on in my head better than you. as soon as you start telling me what i believe or i want, you've lost. i am always a better authority on those subjects than you. and when you guess wrong about what i am thinking, it also makes you look rather foolish.
i don't really get why so many arguments with conservatives ends up being about what i want or believe. why are you so attracted to a sure-fire loser argument like that?
#6 DMartyr 18-Nov-2008
[i]"who says that's my preference? have you asked me? actually, i think israel should recommit to the ceasefire (as hamas is asking them to) and lift the blockade on food and medicine. they should also work to"[/i]
LOL! Isn't that always the way - Israel agrees to ceasefire, Hamas breaks it, then when Israel's response starts to hurt, Hamas asks for the ceasefire again.
Are you muslim? You are certainly advocating an islamic tactic.
Go google 'hudna'.
And no, I'm not avoiding the question. You are asking how I would react as one who supports religious terrorism. I do not support religious terrorism. If Palestinians are suffering under the blockade, they should be blaming those responsible - the terrorists they support and defend.
If a majority of Palestinians are innocent civilians as you seem to be suggesting, they should use their numbers to rise up and put an end to the terrorist attacks against Israel. But they don't.
These missiles are not being fired from military posts, they are being fired from civilian locations. Civilians shield the terrorists while they set up the launchers. They hide the terrorists after the fact. They name their children after martyred terrorists. Families of terrorists are treated as celebrities. So don't give me this 'innocent' or 'misfortunate' crap.
LOL! Isn't that always the way - Israel agrees to ceasefire, Hamas breaks it, then when Israel's response starts to hurt, Hamas asks for the ceasefire again.
Are you muslim? You are certainly advocating an islamic tactic.
Go google 'hudna'.
And no, I'm not avoiding the question. You are asking how I would react as one who supports religious terrorism. I do not support religious terrorism. If Palestinians are suffering under the blockade, they should be blaming those responsible - the terrorists they support and defend.
If a majority of Palestinians are innocent civilians as you seem to be suggesting, they should use their numbers to rise up and put an end to the terrorist attacks against Israel. But they don't.
These missiles are not being fired from military posts, they are being fired from civilian locations. Civilians shield the terrorists while they set up the launchers. They hide the terrorists after the fact. They name their children after martyred terrorists. Families of terrorists are treated as celebrities. So don't give me this 'innocent' or 'misfortunate' crap.
#7 upyernoz 18-Nov-2008
"LOL! Isn't that always the way - Israel agrees to ceasefire, Hamas breaks it, then when Israel's response starts to hurt, Hamas asks for the ceasefire again."
hamas didn't break it. israel did. it entered gaza on nov 5th to shut down the tunnels. the deal was no missiles from hamas in exchange for no israeli incursions. israel did an incursion, so the hamas fired missiles. that was the deal.
"Are you muslim? You are certainly advocating an islamic tactic.
Go google 'hudna'."
no, i'm not a muslim, but i do speak and read arabic. so i do know that googling arabic words is probably the worst way to actually learn what they mean. most of what you get are from second-rate conservatives giving widely distorted definitions of fairly common words.
"And no, I'm not avoiding the question. You are asking how I would react as one who supports religious terrorism."
no, that's not what i was asking. look at my question again: "if you were starving because of a military blockade of food and medical supplies and had stockpiles of missiles lying around, wouldn't you shoot at the people blockading you?"
do you see the word "religious terrorism" in there? it's not. and i didn't secretly mean it to be in there either. i asked what i asked. and you seem intent on avoiding the question or changing it into something completely different. i wonder why that is?
as for the rest of your comment, it is really remarkable how ignorant you seem to be of what life is like in gaza. but i guess that's what happens when you learn about a culture by googling up the things written by its critics.
the worst way in the world to learn about islam is to read sources that have a beef against the religion. just as the worst way in the world to learn about christianity is to read sources that have a beef against christianity. have you ever spoken to a muslim fundamentalist about what he thinks christians belief? it's really quite hilarious. they have a completely warped view of what actual christians think because all they read are the sources of people intent on smearing christians.
you're coming across exactly the same way here when you talk about muslims or the people of gaza. do you really think one and a half million individuals all think exactly the same thing?
hamas didn't break it. israel did. it entered gaza on nov 5th to shut down the tunnels. the deal was no missiles from hamas in exchange for no israeli incursions. israel did an incursion, so the hamas fired missiles. that was the deal.
"Are you muslim? You are certainly advocating an islamic tactic.
Go google 'hudna'."
no, i'm not a muslim, but i do speak and read arabic. so i do know that googling arabic words is probably the worst way to actually learn what they mean. most of what you get are from second-rate conservatives giving widely distorted definitions of fairly common words.
"And no, I'm not avoiding the question. You are asking how I would react as one who supports religious terrorism."
no, that's not what i was asking. look at my question again: "if you were starving because of a military blockade of food and medical supplies and had stockpiles of missiles lying around, wouldn't you shoot at the people blockading you?"
do you see the word "religious terrorism" in there? it's not. and i didn't secretly mean it to be in there either. i asked what i asked. and you seem intent on avoiding the question or changing it into something completely different. i wonder why that is?
as for the rest of your comment, it is really remarkable how ignorant you seem to be of what life is like in gaza. but i guess that's what happens when you learn about a culture by googling up the things written by its critics.
the worst way in the world to learn about islam is to read sources that have a beef against the religion. just as the worst way in the world to learn about christianity is to read sources that have a beef against christianity. have you ever spoken to a muslim fundamentalist about what he thinks christians belief? it's really quite hilarious. they have a completely warped view of what actual christians think because all they read are the sources of people intent on smearing christians.
you're coming across exactly the same way here when you talk about muslims or the people of gaza. do you really think one and a half million individuals all think exactly the same thing?
#8 david colman 04-Dec-2008
Israeli blockade
what is a mess...why not looking with peace.... it is shame to do this on our 21st century.. what is a mess from isreali
what is a mess...why not looking with peace.... it is shame to do this on our 21st century.. what is a mess from isreali
israel cut off food supplies to gaza while the hamas leadership was still honoring the cease fire. using food as a weapon is a war crime. and a military blockade is considered to be an act of war under international law. that's how israel claims it was attacked first in 1967 (israel fired the first shot, but that was in response to a blockade by the arab countries. so israel claimed the blockade meant they were attacked first)
the whole situation in gaza is completely tragic. i have friends on both sides of that one. israel will never be secure as long as they keep collectively punishing the civilians living in gaza.