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California: Don't Look At Our Racist Laws - We Were Pointing Fingers At Arizona, Remember?

It would seem, that California has exactly the same law that Arizona just passed to combat the presence of suspected illegals in their state.  Except, California's law is actually a stronger law than Arizona's.

Yet, no one seems to notice.  Time to spread the word around, huh?Let's take a look at CA's actual legal code:

California’s penal code section 834b requires, not merely permits, law enforcement to attempt to verify the immigration status of people who are suspected of being in the US illegally.

But there are basic differences. The California law requires verification of immigration status when a person has been arrested. Under section 834 of the Calif. Penal Code, that means when a person has been taken into custody. Arizona requires verification when there has been “any lawful stop, detention, or arrest.”

Arizona requires verification when there is “reasonable suspicion” that the person being stopped, detained, or arrested might be in the US illegally. California does not require “reasonable” suspicion. Verification is required only if it is “suspected” that the person is in the US illegally.

But one difference stands out. Nothing in the California Penal Code Section 834b prohibits police from basing their decision on a person’s race or ethnicity the way HB2162 explicitly prohibits Arizona police from considering “race, color, or national origin” when carrying out their duties...

What's that saying??   Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house?  Or, don't point out the splinter in your neighbors in Arizona's eye when you have a telephone pole in your eye!  Don't point that finger at someone, because in reality, you are pointing 3 times as many back at yourself.  

Any other good ones that we can use to shame Kaliphornia?

[Update:]  Tip from Stresseater sends me to the link on the all omnipotent Wiki for additional informaiton.  According to Wiki, "As of 2009, the following 24 states have “stop and identify” laws..."  It would seem that even New York, Rhode Island, Wisconsin and even Illinois have "stop and identify" laws.  Granted, this doesn't quite expand in to an "enforcement" action like in California that REQUIRES police officers to determine citizenship status.  But, a point could be made, I guess.



#1 DMartyr 23-May-2010

Here's the bill:

Just 19 pages. democRATs dont have time to read 19 pages, but they expect us to believe they read the 2000 page healthcare bill 3 times in 2 days...

#2 captainfish 23-May-2010
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